Afstan: "Liberals feared Abu Ghraib-type detainee scandal: source"
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Meanwhile, BruceR. has an excellent point at Flit, with particular reference to the Star's Thomas Walkom:
Update: Adrian MacNair points out a simple truth:
Afghan detainees: The Liberal government was warned about possible torture/Rendition realities/Must-read Updatethe CBC stays on the case, good on them (nothing on the Liberal aspect this morning in the Globe and Mail or Ottawa Citizen):
The Liberal government of 2005 feared Canada's detention of Afghan prisoners would spark a controversy similar to Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib, according to a current government official who spoke with CBC News on condition of anonymity.Rosie DiManno of the Toronto Star was onto the Abu Ghraib nightmare back in November 2009--but the rest of the major media passed over the link to the previous government in their lust to crucify the current one.
The official's claim comes just after Eileen Olexiuk, a former Canadian diplomat with extensive experience in Afghanistan, disclosed that in 2005, she raised the possibility detainees transferred from Canadian to Afghan custody were at risk of torture. Paul Martin's government ignored her concerns, she said.
The government official, who has been involved with the detainee issue for years, confirmed much of what Olexiuk said and added it's clear now Canada should have done more in 2005, when that first detainee transfer agreement was negotiated with the Afghan government.
He said the Liberal government looked at three options as it considered moving Canadian troops to the embattled Kandahar province from the relative stability of Kabul:
* A "take and keep," which the official said raised fears of problems such as those the U.S. encountered with its control of the infamous Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq or its detention of terrorism suspects at its naval base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
* Handing off detainees to U.S. forces for transfer to U.S. facilities like Guantanamo, which had already led to trouble for a previous Liberal defence minister, Art Eggleton.
* Working with Afghans and the local system in place at the time.
In the end, the government opted for the third option, the official said, adding officials and politicians felt they had to trust that helping the Afghans improve their own prison system would be enough to protect Canada's detainees.
These revelations cast the detainee issue — which has ensnared Stephen Harper's Conservatives for months — solidly back to the days of the last Liberal government...
Meanwhile, BruceR. has an excellent point at Flit, with particular reference to the Star's Thomas Walkom:
God help me these people are moronsMore on Doubting Thomas here and here.
Update: Adrian MacNair points out a simple truth:
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The truth is that there’s probably nothing good enough for the critics of the Afghan war. Trying to appease people who are already dealing in bad faith is pointless. Trying to sanitize warfare is a comfortable illusion of a generation of Canadians who have been raised to believe that our military exists to “keep the peace”. They would be happy if we were deployed to sit in Kandahar Air Field with blue helmets and United Nations’ flags signifying the 1% of the province officially safe from the reach of the Taliban. That way, when the Taliban is massacring people 100 metres from the Air Field, we can cite our rules of engagement directive of non-interference, and never get our hands dirty. Sure, people will die. But at least we won’t run the risk of being the ones who handed over the Taliban fighter that wound up falling down in the shower.
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Some of the scandal mongers are having a hard time with this.
The Scott Ross and John Baglow suggest that Olexiuk's warnings led the Liberals to negotiate and sign the 2005 Prisoner Transfer Agreement.
CK from Sister Sage's Musings insists that the CBC should have suppressed this story.
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