Thursday, October 11, 2007

Marines to take over major US ground role in Afstan?

This might make sense given the Marines' emphasis on infantry, traditional seemingly greater interest in counter-insurgency than the US Army, and their integrated air support (a long way from the littoral though):
The Marine Corps is pressing to remove its forces from Iraq and to send marines instead to Afghanistan, to take over the leading role in combat there, according to senior military and Pentagon officials.

The idea by the Marine Corps commandant would effectively leave the Iraq war in the hands of the Army while giving the Marines a prominent new role in Afghanistan, under overall NATO command.

The suggestion was raised in a session last week convened by Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates for the Joint Chiefs of Staff and regional war-fighting commanders. While still under review, its supporters, including some in the Army, argue that a realignment could allow the Army and Marines each to operate more efficiently in sustaining troop levels for two wars that have put a strain on their forces...

Whether the Marine proposal takes hold, the most delicate counterterrorism missions in Afghanistan, including the hunt for forces of Al Qaeda and the Taliban, would remain the job of a military task force that draws on Army, Navy and Air Force Special Operations units...

...Senior officials briefed on the Marine Corps concept said the new idea went beyond simply drawing clearer lines about who was in charge of providing combat personnel, war-fighting equipment and supplies to the two war zones.

They said it would allow the Marines to carry out the Afghan mission in a way the Army cannot, by deploying as an integrated Marine Corps task force that included combat aircraft as well as infantry and armored vehicles, while the Army must rely on the Air Force...

Marines train to fight in what is called a Marine Air-Ground Task Force. That term refers to a Marine deployment that arrives in a combat zone complete with its own headquarters, infantry combat troops, armored and transport vehicles and attack jets for close-air support, as well as logistics and support personnel.

“This is not about trading one ground war for another,” said one Pentagon official briefed on the Marine concept. “It is about the nature of the fight in Afghanistan, and figuring out whether the Afghan mission lends itself more readily to the integrated MAGTF deployment than even Iraq.”
Update: Relevant:
Gates Says Military Faces More Unconventional Wars
Here's more (I bet the Secretary of Defense has read Fiasco: the American Military Adventure in Iraq):
Gates Describes Army of the Future
Upperdate: USA hits back:
Generals slam Marine plan for Afghanistan
Note that Canadian units in our battle group serve six-month rotations (the US Army is saying that their fifteen-month tours are better than Marines' seven-month ones).

3 Comments:

Blogger GMcCready said...

I say this as someone with deep affection and respect for the US Marine Corps, this is not the greatest of ideas.

9:59 p.m., October 11, 2007  
Blogger Cameron Campbell said...

grayson could you elaborate?

10:42 a.m., October 12, 2007  
Blogger GMcCready said...

Marines are not particularly well suited for the COIN/Reconstruction Ops going on right now in Soutern Afghanistan by reason of their corporate ethic of aggressiveness and traditional role as assault infantry.

I have no way of checking but my sense is that there have a greater number "incidents" involving Marines in Iraq than Army.

Separately but related I find it interesting that the Marine seem to want out of Iraq.

If you read this blog regularly you also likely read a number of articles last spring - by Brits usually - criticizing US ROE in Afghanistan and how the separate US/ NATO command structure was at times counter productive.

5:54 p.m., October 13, 2007  

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