Saturday, October 06, 2007

No Reapers for the CF

Or any other version of the Predator UAV. Pity:
Canada's air force is shopping for new, unarmed pilotless aircraft to help protect troops in Afghanistan.

The head of the air force, Lt.-Gen. Angus Watt, has ordered the program fast-tracked, and his staff plan to give special consideration to companies that can quickly deliver the so-called uninhabited aerial vehicles or UAVs.

The purchase, which industry insiders say could be worth up to $100 million, is seen as a stopgap until the air force becomes more comfortable with the technology.

The plan is a step back from a $500-million proposal that was rejected last spring by the federal cabinet. The original plan was to purchase 12 U.S.-made Predator drones, which can be equipped with Hellfire missiles.

The Predator proposal, part of the Conservative government's draft defence plan, was bounced back to air force planners after concerns were raised by senior ministers about the military sole-sourcing yet another defence contract.

The air chief also says the technology hasn't evolved sufficiently.

"For a while there, we flirted with technology," Watt said in a recent interview.

"We have walked back from that flirtation. That doesn't mean we are not going to pursue UAVs, but I think we have a little more realistic view of the capabilities of the UAVs."

Watt said technology that would deliver a 226-kilogram bomb, or fire a missile at a target, without humans nearby makes him nervous.

"I think it would be a stretch for us," Watt said.

"The reason being is: we in Canada like to have a man in the loop dropping weapons and shooting weapons at people [doesn't bother the Brits though]...

In a letter of interest that asks industry for proposals, Canada's air force says it wants a pilotless aircraft that can carry out mostly surveillance, but also use laser pointers to direct precision-guided munitions to targets. Those bombs and missiles would come from manned aircraft or ground-based artillery.

"It's a simpler, somewhat less expensive program, one that we are trying to fast-track in order to deliver capability for our mission as soon as we can obtain it," said Watt.

The original timeline for the program had the air force taking delivering of the new aircraft in mid-2009, just as the Afghan mission possibly winds down.

But Lt.-Col. Wade Williams, who's in charge of the UAV program, says officials hope to get the first aircraft into Afghanistan "within months" of the contract being signed next year...

In a letter of interest that asks industry for proposals, Canada's air force says it wants a pilotless aircraft that can carry out mostly surveillance, but also use laser pointers to direct precision-guided munitions to targets. Those bombs and missiles would come from manned aircraft or ground-based artillery.

"It's a simpler, somewhat less expensive program, one that we are trying to fast-track in order to deliver capability for our mission as soon as we can obtain it," said Watt.

The original timeline for the program had the air force taking delivering of the new aircraft in mid-2009, just as the Afghan mission possibly winds down [see this June 2007 story].

But Lt.-Col. Wade Williams, who's in charge of the UAV program, says officials hope to get the first aircraft into Afghanistan "within months" of the contract being signed next year...

Pilotless aircraft were also touted in the Tory defence plan as a key to asserting Canada's Arctic sovereignty.

But air force planners have found out that many drones are not suitable for bad weather operations in high latitudes.

Watt said that was also a factor when it came to the decision to shelve the Predator proposal.

"When you talk about climate change opening up new surveillance requirements in the north, you run into problems where UAVs are concerned," he said.

"We're going to need another generation of manned aircraft."
What about the Global Hawk for long-range, high altitude northern (and maritime) surveillance?
The Australian Defence Force has plans to purchase a squadron of Global Hawks to replace a number of P-3C Orion maritime patrol aircraft [same basic airframe as Auroras].

4 Comments:

Blogger Cameron Campbell said...

Apparently we fear the reaper...

Sorry.. it was just sitting there..

12:17 p.m., October 07, 2007  
Blogger fm said...

Just to be clear, the ADF (under Project Air 7000) plans to purchase both UAVs and manned MPA to replace the broad capability of the present P-3:

http://www.defence.gov.au/Capability/AIR7000/

AIR 7000 will consider the future of the AP-3C in the context of future ADF requirements for maritime patrol and response. This will include the exploration of a broad range of options including aircraft refurbishment/re-manufacture or replacement, and the use of Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAS) as an adjunct to manned platforms. While the project will be focused on the acquisition of a capability centred on maritime patrol and response roles, it will also support electronic and land surveillance roles. Phase 1B is intended to consider and further develop options leading to the acquisition of a high altitude long endurance unmanned aerial system that can perform all-weather, long endurance surveillance and reconnaissance tasks over maritime and land environments. The Phase 1 capability is an essential adjunct to the manned capability acquired under Air 7000 Phase 2B. Phase 2B is intended to ensure that the ADF has a manned Maritime Patrol Aircraft system capable of performing maritime patrol and response tasks.

A$1-1.5 B for the UAS and A$3.5-4.5 B for the manned MPA replacement.

At the moment Australia has 18 P-3s. I'm guessing there will be less than 12 replacement manned MPA for that money, but that's just a guess (and only one factor in the equation).

At this stage, it seems pretty certain the aircraft will be the winner of the US Navy BAMS competition and the P-8 (though maybe not the first tranche). Australia has contributed a small amount of development money for both US programs. The Global Hawk is one of three competitors in the BAMS competition.

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/australia-to-participate-in-bams-uav-project-02502

10:18 p.m., October 07, 2007  
Blogger Joe Katzman said...

No link for the report, or cite saying where it's from?

I'll add that Australia has formally signed up for the 737-derived P-8A Poseidon program in a multi-billion dollar commitment. (Canada has also been invited to be join that program; its long maritime borders and melting Northwest Passage make that aircraft its best objective choice.)

Only the AIR 7000 UAV is in question, as fm rightly points out. Key candidates are General Atomics' Mariner (derived from the MQ-9 Reaper), the RQ-N Global Hawk, and the hydrogen-powered Aerovironment Global Observer, with an impressive 7-day flight time. The Global Hawk may get a boost in Australia/BAMS from the USA's "Pacific Pool" proposal.

3:06 p.m., October 10, 2007  
Blogger Mark, Ottawa said...

joe: Oops! Link added.

Mark
Ottawa

3:18 p.m., October 10, 2007  

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