Afstan: What are the Dutch and Brits doing?
According to these two stories, negotiating--which is fine if Taliban are actually neutralized.
1) "Dutch aim to beat Taleban by inviting them round to tea"
1) "Dutch aim to beat Taleban by inviting them round to tea"
...Colonel Vleugels, commander of the Dutch force in neighbouring Uruzgan province,... built a qala — a traditional Pashtun home with mud walls and a large reception room where guests are greeted in the local fashion with tea, nuts and dried fruit.2) "Britain 'out of step with Nato allies'"
It is designed as a base for Dutch soldiers and as a place for local people — including those close to the Taleban — to air grievances and talk politics...
Since August, the Dutch have carried out more than 400 patrols. They have lost one soldier, who committed suicide, and suffered four injuries in combat. Civilian casualties have also been very low, the governor said.
By comparison, British troops lost 36 men in southern Afghanistan last year and the Canadians lost 35 soldiers and one diplomat. President Karzai publicly wept over the number of civilian casualties last month.
Nato officials bristle at the idea that there is a “Dutch model” that might be applicable to Helmand or any other province. “The Dutch are doing what we’d all like to do — we just don’t have the opportunity,” one said.
Some say that the Dutch simply had good luck in their first few months in Uruzgan. Others attribute the relative stability in the south to American special forces who have pinned down the Taleban in the mountainous north of the province.
Some critics accuse the Dutch of surrendering most of Uruzgan to the Taleban without a fight. “Go 5km from the governor’s house and you’re in Taleban territory,” said Naimatullah, 32, who runs a telephone shop in Tarin Kowt. “The old governor used to fight the Taleban. The new one just talks.”
British policy in Afghanistan is seriously damaging Western efforts against the Taliban, diplomats from allied countries have warned.
Officials from the United States and European members of Nato have told The Daily Telegraph that Britain is increasingly at odds with its coalition partners over its policy of making arbitrary peace deals with the Taliban, while at the same time declining to put pressure on Pakistan to stop providing sanctuary to the Taliban leadership.
Diplomats in Kabul and Islamabad say Britain's "go it alone policies" are threatening military preparations for a major Taliban offensive expected next month.
Western officials have strongly criticised a peace deal in Musa Qala, Helmand, where thousands of British fought daily battles with a resurgent Taliban.
British commanders say the deal was struck with tribal elders, but it has been claimed that the agreement was actually made with the Taliban, who controlled the town. British officers deny the claim.
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The truce is now reported to be breaking down with large numbers of heavily-armed Taliban returning to Musa Qala...
1 Comments:
Both post are slightly erroneous, as they suggest that the UK or the Netherlands could indeed have different military policies in Afghanistan. They don't.
When operating in the NATO-ISAF framework, the strategic and operational decisions are made at ACO (SHAPE), JFCBS (Brunssum), COMISAF in Kabul, or the ISAF Regional Command (South) in Kandahar.
When operating in the framework of Operation Enduring Freedom (both countries are full members of the coalition), the shots are called at US CENTCOM. In addition, both countries keep a close watch on what their troops are asked to do by posting so-called Red Card Holders at the different command HQ's.
The difference in military posture between the UK and the Netherlands in Helmand and Uruzgan provinces respectively has to do with the fact that the UK began operations in Helmand in the framework of OEF (basically, finding and neutralising al Qaeda, Taliban and associated elements) which explains why they had/have so many small and often under-manned outposts/forward operating bases. The Dutch, in close coordination with NATO, opted for an 'ink blog' strategy - establishing firm bases at two locations from which their influence is spread out step by step.
Both countries are involved in fighting and reconstruction efforts simultaneously as conditions permit. As the commander of the Dutch forces, Colonel Theo Vleugels, once said; "there can be no security without reconstruction; and no reconstruction without security."
I can't judge about the article in the Daily Telegraph on the UK, but Ahmed Rashid is a respected and well-known expert on Afghan affairs.
As to the article in The Times, it contains some mistakes, about which the following Letter to the Editor was submitted for publication:
"Dear Sirs,
The article 'Dutch aim to beat Taleban by inviting them round to tea' by your correspondent Jeremy Page, filed from Tarin Kowt (Uruzgan province, Afghanistan) is somewhat misleading as to the way in which The Netherlands fulfills its NATO mission in Uruzgan province, Afghanistan.
First, it contains a factual error. The Dutch have not lost one, but four men during the mission so far. Besides the suicide case described in the article, a Royal Netherlands Air Force F-16 fighter pilot lost his life whilst underway from Kabul for an urgent close air support mission for British troops in Helmand province. The fatality (which occurred on August 31st) is believed to have been caused by a technical failure. In addition, a Dutch officer and a NCO lost their lives when a chartered helicopter crashed in Paktia province on July 27th.
On a more general note, the article is somewhat misleading, as it puts the emphasis on contacts with the local population and reconstruction efforts while hardly mentioning the many, many firefights that have also taken place. For some unique footage of Dutch commandos in action in Uruzgan province, see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnzA_8Juw94
And while the small Forward Operating Base referred to in this article by The Times (called 'Poentjak') does indeed include a meeting point and a qala, it also bears a striking resemblance to a 'small fortress' and has been the scene of heavy attacks by the Taliban."
Webmaster, Uruzgan weblog (http://oruzgan.web-log.nl)
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