Nothing improves if we pull back
Richard Colvin's recent testimony before a parliamentary committee has caused quite the tempest:
I was asked to comment on the situation by the folks at CBC's Connect with Mark Kelley, and if you weren't...ahem...lucky enough to have it on at the time, you can catch the clip here. (My sister-in-law happened to see me on one of the TV's at the gym, but the sound was turned down. Fortunate for her: I'm told I make a much better impression when you can't hear me.)
I've already committed a lot of 1's and 0's to the topic of detainees here at The Torch. If you're not a regular reader, this post sums up most of my thoughts on the issue, and I think lays out the central problem in all of this a bit more clearly than I've seen it anywhere in the MSM. Follow the links there and you'll find other material that adds more context.
There are also a couple of points I didn't have a chance to make in the CBC video or here on the blog in specific reference to the detainee issue.
First, it's worth remembering that the underlying issue with treatment of detainees isn't our procedures, our tracking, or our paperwork. In fact, it's not our anything. It's the Afghan police, judiciary, and penal system.
And by the way, we're already working on improving that. For those who didn't read it at the time, you should meet Kevin Cluett, one of the many unheralded and tireless Canadians working to make Afghanistan a better place. When I was in Kandahar, he was one of only four Canadian corrections officers in all of Afghanistan: one worked with the national government in Kabul, one was a senior leadership mentor for the local prison warden and supervisor of the crew at the KPRT, and two were mentors and trainers to the guards at Sarposa prison. I don't know if this situation has changed, but that small cadre was putting in long and dangerous hours to fix the root of the problem: Afghan prisons. Nobody's talking about that, though - not sexy enough.
And would all those moaning and groaning about what a disgrace this is be willing to surge CSC officers into Kandahar to turbo-charge that valuable program? I doubt it. Even if all the outraged said "yes, we should send more good Canadians from Correctional Services Canada into harm's way," would they also be willing to bump up the number of force protection soldiers keeping them relatively safe, to take more casualties as more vehicles were running up and down the roads between our bases and camps and the Afghan prisons, and to keep the program going past 2011 so it had a realistic chance at effecting a long-term, sustainable cultural change within the Afghan system?
Hands up if you think that's a realistic scenario? Right then. As I've said previously:
The other point I wish I'd been able to make properly was actually best put by BruceR at Flit:
I have no doubt the plight of detainees in Afghan jails could be improved. No doubt whatsoever.
I have yet to hear a compelling argument, however, that would justify diverting scarce money and attention into a realistic fix, let alone a commitment to putting forth the long-term resources that would be required for that solution.
To those who throw their hands up and say this is yet another reason we should get out altogether, I ask: where will those Afghan prisoners be if we stop trying to help the Afghans build their country's institutions? Better or worse off? Let your righteous indignation chew on that question for a moment.
I suspect that if you're honest with yourself, you'll come to the same unsatisfying conclusion I have: in Afghanistan, if we let the perfect be the enemy of the good, nothing will ever get better.
Update: As usual, BruceR at Flit has some valuable things to say about the Afghan detainee transfer brouhaha, including some personal anecdotes about avoiding the taking of detainees while he was over there mentoring the ANA. Too much paperwork, it seems...here's a snippet:
Need I say the whole thing is worth reading?
All detainees transferred by Canadians to Afghan prisons were likely tortured by Afghan officials and many of the prisoners were innocent, says a former senior diplomat with Canada's mission in Afghanistan.
Appearing before a House of Commons committee Wednesday, Richard Colvin blasted the detainees policies of Canada and compared them with the policies of the British and the Netherlands.
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He said unlike the British and Dutch, Canada did not monitor their conditions; took days, weeks or months to notify the Red Cross; kept poor records; and to prevent scrutiny, the Canadian Forces leadership concealed this behind "walls of secrecy."
"As I learned more about our detainee practices, I came to a conclusion they were contrary to Canada's values, contrary to Canada's interests, contrary to Canada's official policies and also contrary to international law. That is, they were un-Canadian, counterproductive and probably illegal.
I was asked to comment on the situation by the folks at CBC's Connect with Mark Kelley, and if you weren't...ahem...lucky enough to have it on at the time, you can catch the clip here. (My sister-in-law happened to see me on one of the TV's at the gym, but the sound was turned down. Fortunate for her: I'm told I make a much better impression when you can't hear me.)
I've already committed a lot of 1's and 0's to the topic of detainees here at The Torch. If you're not a regular reader, this post sums up most of my thoughts on the issue, and I think lays out the central problem in all of this a bit more clearly than I've seen it anywhere in the MSM. Follow the links there and you'll find other material that adds more context.
There are also a couple of points I didn't have a chance to make in the CBC video or here on the blog in specific reference to the detainee issue.
First, it's worth remembering that the underlying issue with treatment of detainees isn't our procedures, our tracking, or our paperwork. In fact, it's not our anything. It's the Afghan police, judiciary, and penal system.
And by the way, we're already working on improving that. For those who didn't read it at the time, you should meet Kevin Cluett, one of the many unheralded and tireless Canadians working to make Afghanistan a better place. When I was in Kandahar, he was one of only four Canadian corrections officers in all of Afghanistan: one worked with the national government in Kabul, one was a senior leadership mentor for the local prison warden and supervisor of the crew at the KPRT, and two were mentors and trainers to the guards at Sarposa prison. I don't know if this situation has changed, but that small cadre was putting in long and dangerous hours to fix the root of the problem: Afghan prisons. Nobody's talking about that, though - not sexy enough.
And would all those moaning and groaning about what a disgrace this is be willing to surge CSC officers into Kandahar to turbo-charge that valuable program? I doubt it. Even if all the outraged said "yes, we should send more good Canadians from Correctional Services Canada into harm's way," would they also be willing to bump up the number of force protection soldiers keeping them relatively safe, to take more casualties as more vehicles were running up and down the roads between our bases and camps and the Afghan prisons, and to keep the program going past 2011 so it had a realistic chance at effecting a long-term, sustainable cultural change within the Afghan system?
Hands up if you think that's a realistic scenario? Right then. As I've said previously:
It's a fantastic idea.
But here's the kicker: there are a million fantastic ideas to move Afghan society forward, and we simply can't do all of them.
Does it make more sense to spend money on rehabilitating irrigation canals for Afghan food crops so a village can feed itself, or to spend that money on a prison so that incarcerated Taliban fighters get three squares a day? Should we be more concerned with providing a Village Medical Outreach to a hamlet that hasn't seen a real doctor in a decade or more, or with providing basic electrical service to a town, or with stocking a hospital's maternity ward with supplies and equipment, or with training children how to avoid land-mines, or with teaching police how to conduct a decent checkpoint or investigation, or with digging a well and providing a clean water supply to a collection of families without one now, or with building a school where the future of Afghanistan learns to read and add, or with providing a secure pay system for essential workers like doctors and teachers to help curb graft and corruption, or should we really be most concerned with heating a jail in the winter?
That was a run-on sentence, because the list of projects we could undertake would make for a run-on mission if we let it.
At this point, we can't fix everything. We need to focus our efforts on a limited spread of achievable goals. Protecting detainees better than we do is certainly achievable if we want it to be - but what other goals will be sacrificed to make it so?
Right now, this mission is about choices for Canada. It's about the difficult process of triage for an entire nation. Civilized countries are meticulous about human rights, even those of detainees. Has Afghanistan progressed to the point where this is the highest priority?
The other point I wish I'd been able to make properly was actually best put by BruceR at Flit:
You think we had our own jails in Cyprus or Suez? Neve is really arguing that, contra Bono, the world does not, in fact, need more Canada, regardless of whatever future massive human rights violations might seem to warrant Canadian military intervention, because we can't trust the jails of any country that might benefit from that kind of presence.
I have no doubt the plight of detainees in Afghan jails could be improved. No doubt whatsoever.
I have yet to hear a compelling argument, however, that would justify diverting scarce money and attention into a realistic fix, let alone a commitment to putting forth the long-term resources that would be required for that solution.
To those who throw their hands up and say this is yet another reason we should get out altogether, I ask: where will those Afghan prisoners be if we stop trying to help the Afghans build their country's institutions? Better or worse off? Let your righteous indignation chew on that question for a moment.
I suspect that if you're honest with yourself, you'll come to the same unsatisfying conclusion I have: in Afghanistan, if we let the perfect be the enemy of the good, nothing will ever get better.
Update: As usual, BruceR at Flit has some valuable things to say about the Afghan detainee transfer brouhaha, including some personal anecdotes about avoiding the taking of detainees while he was over there mentoring the ANA. Too much paperwork, it seems...here's a snippet:
With detainees, we always seemed to be in one of those perfect catch-22s that typified the ISAF mission. Afghan law said all detainees had to be brought before a judge within 72 hours of capture. This was rigorously enforced. Unfortunately, that made it kind of difficult, given the IED situation and everything else, for mentors to establish any kind of evidentiary linkage with an IED attack or other insurgent activity that would justify their continued detention and deliver detainee and evidence by road to Kandahar in time (if it was ISAF-collected evidence, the declassification and translation processes each would have taken days if not weeks). So by Afghan law, nearly all detainees, both innocent and guilty as hell, should have been promptly released by the judge on sight, and certainly many were.
Perhaps Canadians, who've hadn't taken detainees in a counterinsurgency situation before this since, oh, about 1902, weren't the best people to be instructing the Afghans on how to do this right. And once again, really we were falling afoul of that early handover by the West of Afghan sovereignty, to the point where we really had no control over what normally would be essential processes in a counterinsurgency fight: the courts, the prison system, police questioning. And we tried not to notice how much that subverted our other efforts.
Need I say the whole thing is worth reading?
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One can't help being reminded of this gem from two years ago, many, many parts of which bear repeating:
I want a war sim...
1. ... where I spend two hours pushing across a map to destroy a "nuclear missile silo," only to find out after the fact that it was just a missile-themed orphanage.
I want little celebrities to show up on the scene and do interviews over video of charred teddy bears, decrying my unilateral attack. I want [parliamentary] hearings demanding answers to these atrocities.
2. On the very next level I want to lose half of my units because another "orphanage" turned out to be an enemy ambush site. I want another round of hearings asking why I didn't level that orphanage as soon as I saw it, including tearful testimony from a slain soldier's daughter who is now, ironically, an orphan.
...
6. Speaking of innocents, I want a war sim where native townsfolk stand shoulder-to-shoulder on every inch of the map and not a single bomb can be dropped without blowing 200 of them into chunks. Forget about the abandoned building wallpaper in games like the Red Alert series. I want to have to choose between sending marines door-to-door to be killed in the streets or leveling the block from afar, Nuns and all. I want to have to choose between 40 dead troops or 400 dead children, and be damned to hell by chubby pundits from the safety of their studios regardless of which way I go.
7. I want my Mission Objectives to change every 30 seconds, without anyone letting me know. I want little talking heads to pop up on my screen--commanders, politicians, allies, military intelligence--each giving me different sets of victory parameters, all of them conflicting and many of them written in bullshit ass-covering doublespeak.
...
18. I want to be able to build a POW camp structure where enemy soldiers and suicide bombers are held should they somehow survive battle or should their suicide bombing only be half-successful. I want to right-click on the building and open an option that says "Interrogate Prisoners," which will make parts of the map open up and reveal enemy positions, saving my own units from ambushes.
Then, I want a little cut scene to pop up to announce that photos of my prisoner interrogations have emerged, sparking international outrage because several prisoners were upset and humiliated and some even physically harmed.
The whole world is shocked, it says, because people were physically harmed.
In my war.
So, I leave the battlefield ...
... and brush the flaming chunks of bomb victims off my boots to address the worldwide outrage. The game will bring me up on a court martial, everybody pointing out that it was I who clicked the little Interrogation icon. I want to lose tons of public-support points and have every game objective suddenly put in doubt.
19. Now, beating the game will depend on how I play to Ivy League [Yo, Iggy!] politicians who think a gun is something you hang over your mantlepiece to be occasionally dusted by the maid in your [Gatineau] summer home. And, when it comes to that point in the game where this panel demands the truth (and says they're "entitled" to the truth) I want a little drop-down menu that will let me tell them that they, in fact, can't handle the truth.
[Cue Jack Nicholson...]
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