Afstan: A "war of necessity"?
Robert Kagan has his doubts--conclusion of a piece in the Washington Post (it seems to me that Canadians have related moral scruples--wanting UN sanction/cover for military action, and then not considering it enough in Afstan):
Over the next one or two centuries the above realities (if so they be) bear rather badly for the future of our societies. Given: 1) our demographic decline; and 2) human nature as seen through history. Since many people in other societies still believe in the "strong horse" ("..when people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature, they will like the strong horse..."). As we once did, also believing in our own (for want of a better word) righteousness--severely undermined by events and behaviour in Europe during the first half of the twentieth century.
Prime Minister William Lyon Mackenzie King said this in October 1939, just under 80 years ago; how far we have come (source website):
The President and the 'Necessary War' MythI think one could argue that no Canadian war since 1867 has been one of necessity--except World War II and in 1939 it did not actually appear to be one. A relevant post:
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The fact is, unless the nation is invaded or its very survival is imminently threatened, going to war is always a choice. So what is the point of trying to make this elusive distinction anyway? For many, including Obama, the present purpose is to distinguish Afghanistan from Iraq, Obama's "good" war from George W. Bush's "bad" war. But it won't work. As Haass correctly argues, right or wrong, they were both wars of choice.
But there is a deeper reason, as well, for Obama to claim necessity in Afghanistan. It is part of what increasingly seems to be a striving for moral purity in international affairs by this administration. Obama and his top advisers apologize for America's past sins, implicitly suggesting they will commit no new ones. And that goes for fighting wars. No one can blame you for fighting a war if it is a war of necessity, or so they may believe. All the inevitable ancillary casualties of war -- from civilian deaths to the occasional misbehavior of the troops to the errors of commanders -- are more easily forgiven if one has no choice. The claim of necessity wipes away the moral ambiguities inherent in the exercise of power. And it prevents scrutiny of one's own motives, which in nations, as in individuals, are rarely pure.
This hoped-for escape from moral burdens is, however, an illusion. Just because America declares something necessary doesn't mean that the rest of the world, and especially its victims, will believe it is just. The claim of necessity will not absolve the United States, and Obama, from responsibility for its actions.
As Reinhold Niebuhr pointed out long ago, Americans find it hard to acknowledge this moral ambiguity of power. They are reluctant to face the fact that it is only through the morally ambiguous exercise of their power that any good can be accomplished. Obama is right to be prosecuting the war in Afghanistan, and he should do so even more vigorously. But he will not avoid the moral and practical burdens of fighting this war by claiming he has no choice. An action can be right or just without being necessary. Like great presidents in the past, Barack Obama will have to explain why his choice, while difficult and fraught with complexity, is right and better than the alternatives.
Robert Kagan, a senior associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, writes a monthly column for The Post.
Thinking about AfstanMeanwhile:
Well, it could have been worseUpdate thoughts: An amplification of Mr Kagan's analysis: I think that in Western countries it has come be widely accepted that war/combat is somehow illegitimate save in the direst circumstances--Mr Kagan's definition of a true "necessary war". Moreover Western societies seem increasingly unwilling to accept casualty levels in conflict that are risible by any historical standard.
Intimidation, attacks and disenchantment suppressed turnout but did not abort voting
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Over the next one or two centuries the above realities (if so they be) bear rather badly for the future of our societies. Given: 1) our demographic decline; and 2) human nature as seen through history. Since many people in other societies still believe in the "strong horse" ("..when people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature, they will like the strong horse..."). As we once did, also believing in our own (for want of a better word) righteousness--severely undermined by events and behaviour in Europe during the first half of the twentieth century.
Prime Minister William Lyon Mackenzie King said this in October 1939, just under 80 years ago; how far we have come (source website):
Canada is engaged in a war which is a crusade to save Christian civiilization and theWe're certainly not now facing Hitler or anything similar. But we have lost faith in ourselves.
liberty of mankind, Prime Minister Mackenzie King declared in a radio address last night.
The present struggle, he asserted, is for the preservation not alone of national and personal freedom but of freedom also of the mind and of the soul .
Stating he had always had a positive hatred of war, Premier King, said no other course but the overthrow by arms of Nazi Germany would prevent Naziism extending its tyrannical power over all nations and descent of the whole world into a new and terrible age of barbarism...
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"But we have lost faith in ourselves."
I would say that more specifically, there is a loss of faith in humanity and its potential greatness that has occurred in "the west," most ominously.
"We're certainly not now facing Hitler or anything similar."
"We're certainly not now facing Hitler," true, but I would not go so far as to say that what civilization is facing (I prefer to leave off the unhelpful and somewhat misapplied adjective "western") is really that dissimilar to Hitlerism at all.
I have few definite ideas about these questions, but oen point abuot which I am of a very firm conviction is that what our generation faces in any number of threats, singly and in combination, should be understand as every bit as daunting as the threats faced by our parents and grandparents' generation.
It is 1938, then, in this way:
"Everything one writes now is overshadowed by this ghastly feeling that we are rushing towards a precipice and, though we shan’t actually prevent ourselves or anyone else from going over, must put up some sort of fight. I suppose actually we have about two years before the guns begin to shoot."
Georg Orwell to cyril Connolly, December 14, 1938.
This post has been linked for the HOT5 Daily 8/24/2009, at The Unreligious Right
Now my posts are just removed. Hypocrites.
You lose.
Excuse me, PenGun? I haven't removed any of your posts...yet.
But even if I were to do so, that wouldn't make me a hypocrite. This isn't your forum, it's mine. You're free to go set up your own blog and rant to your heart's content.
You're beginning to sound like a troll...
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