For shame
This editorial cartoon, which defaces the pages of today's Toronto Star, should never have made it into print.
The implication that General Hillier would willing turn the professional Canadian military into an instrument of subjugation of the Canadian people is deeply insulting and offensive, especially a day before Remembrance Day.
Some jokes just aren't funny.
The implication that General Hillier would willing turn the professional Canadian military into an instrument of subjugation of the Canadian people is deeply insulting and offensive, especially a day before Remembrance Day.
Some jokes just aren't funny.
posted by Babbling Brooks at 8:26 a.m.
25 Comments:
a very popular paper in Toronto, they must be "playing to their home team" with such cartoons.
That such crap would appeal to a large segment of Toronto's citizens is a far more damning indication of the political isolation, the narrow minded anti militarism/Peace at any Price attitude and a pathetic sense of self-appointed self-importance of the chattering class of Toronto.
Perhaps all those jokes about Torontonians believing they are "COTC" - center of the universe aren't jokes after all.
The question is, what universe ?
On the eve of Nov 11, to have that cartoon in their paper is clear indication they have been drinking their own bathwater for far to long and now have convinced themselves it is vintage quality stuff.
Ditto to fred.
It seems there's a significant fraction of these people in all the Anglophone Democracies. Much of the MSM are in this fraction, including editorial cartoonists.
This Western Neo-Left has neither the respect for the military as an institution, nor for the men and women who serve therein. That lack of respect and gratitude unfortunately even extends to dead Veterans and to serving Soldiers who gave their lives for their countries and freedom.
A perfect example is the fairly recent controversy over John Kerry's remarks to students that said in effect that Servicemen and Women in combat in Iraq and Af-stan are dumb and uneducated. He later gave a qualified apology, regretting that anyone was upset by his remark, not regretting making his remark.
What I found interesting is that, for once, Kerry told the truth, accidentally. That's how he and other members in good standing of the West's Neo-Left feel about the Armed Forces and those who serve in them. That being the case, a cartoon like the one at hand is, as they see it, no big deal.
Do either of you have anything resembling proof that this cartoon does anything like "appeal to a large segment of Toronto's citizens"?
By proof I don't mean more partisan hackery. By proof I don't mean more pseudo-intellectual drivel about the "neo-left". I mean proof, like stats, like thousands of letters of support, something other than made up crap that you've pulled out of your butt.
As repugnant as this cartoon is (and it's way up there on the repugnant scale), part of living in our cocked up little slice of democracy, is that we get the good with the bad. Freedom of speech and expression (a right that comes with responsibilities - something the Star has clearly forgotten). You know, one of those freedoms that our vets and men and women in uniform fight/fought to defend.
So, please, spare the rest of us your half-witted extrapolations, you're just embarrassing yourselves.
Dear Sir/Madam,
I've just had Patrick Corrigan's editorial cartoon of November 10th pointed out to me.
I find myself waffling between bemused amazement at the sheer idiocy of it and total outrage. I guess I'm going to have to settle for amazed outrage.
Clearly you know the date, it's right up there at the top of both your website and on the cover of your paper. Clearly you know that Remembrance Day is sometime soon, you have a poppy up there as well, a few centimeters from the idiotic cartoon.
And yet in an exciting tour de force of dumb, all encapsulated in one cartoon, you manage to:
1) Suggest that PM Harper (a man who will get my vote when he steals it from my cold, dead hands) would use the Canadian Forces against his own citizens.
2) That CDS Hillier would follow and issue such an order.
3) That the men and women of the CF would follow such an order were Hillier to give it.
4) That Toronto/Torontonians are so far out of the political culture of the rest of Canada that they are analogous to insurgents in Afghanistan.
To suggest that the CF/Hillier would engage in urban warfare and martial law (though one could argue that you're also suggesting genocidal massacres based on political affiliation, but the UN doesn't recognize that yet, so you're off the hook there) is, at best, insulting. To do so on the 10th of November is revolting.
Bravo. Well done.
Cameron Campbell
Brilliant Cameron--I trust you sent it to the Star!
Mark
Ottawa
First there, then here.
Man, I'm glad we got our son his winter coat, it's going to be fricking cold at the cenotaph tomorrow, though it looks like no rain.
Last year was so bad that someone wound up lending us an umbrella.
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Let's make sure they get plenty more letters than normal.
Comment thread at Milnet.ca.
Mark
Ottawa
Ooops--Start of thread here.
Mark
Ottawa
"appeal to a large segment of Toronto's citizens"?"
check out the circulation data for that "newspaper". Being a relative term, large is quite justified.
Quite.
I see, so you're theory is that they should have preemptively foreseen that this cartoon was coming and canceled their subscription based on this clairvoyant info?
Whatever fred, your prejudices are showing.
Oh, and fred, I read Le Devoir and Journal de Montreal sometimes. I disagree with much of their editorial stances...
gosh that further buggers up your "proof".
No doubt that cartoon was conceived by the same braintrust that brought us those Liberal ads - you know the ones along the lines "soldiers, in our streets, with guns, in Canada".
Cameron, excellent letter to the Star. Though I can't quite see why you got your knickers in such a knot over Fred's and Dave's comments.
jr, thanks.
My knickers come preknoted for people who generalize to the extent where they seem to be demonizing fellow Canadians.
Which is funny, since what makes the cartoon offensive is that very thing...
ah.. irony, they names are fred and dave.
Judging by the voting habits of Toronto, the Editorial habits of it's major papers and the general political direction of the city proper, I think that Fred's probably not all that far off the mark. Arrogant dismissals included.
Regards,
Pat
"Soldiers with guns. In our cities. They're making this up."
Must be the same writer for the Liberal 06 commercials...
Andrew - Exactly what I was thinking!
good entertainment value Cameron.
Appreciate the efforts.
A perfect example is the fairly recent controversy over John Kerry's remarks to students that said in effect that Servicemen and Women in combat in Iraq and Af-stan are dumb and uneducated. He later gave a qualified apology, regretting that anyone was upset by his remark, not regretting making his remark.
Revisionist history. Kerry was not referring to the troops, but to Bush:
What Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., said about Iraq: “You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”
What his spokesperson, Amy Brundage, said Kerry’s prepared text called for him to say: “Do you know where you end up if you don’t study, if you aren’t smart, if you’re intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq. Just ask President Bush.”
Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13018908/
And on the deliberate political spin:
http://newsbusters.org/node/8748
It's widely known that Kerry got worse grades than Bush in college, so it makes no sense at all to criticize Bush's failure to study.
Thanks fred, I can never hope to be as blindly ignorant and openly filled with half-baked hatred for such a wide swath of the Canadian population as you, so I go for what you think of as humor.
Oh, and thanks dawg, I really didn't have the energy to take that one on.
Funny how people who hate the dread MSM take what they report as the gospel when it happens to suit their political views...
funny like "oh gosh, look, how incredibly predictable and not just a bit pathetic" not funny "hahah!"
fred,
I think some notably ungracious person broke wind in the room.
Asking that people don't make things up is ungracious?
Wow.. sheltered much?
71 Canadian heroes lost in 6 years of Afghanistan and the Liberal GTA is wetting pants while raising the white flag?
They can*t all be that stu.. un-Canadian. Must be the inbred Gta press.
Reach out GTA. Turn off talk shows and CBC Mansbridge. Read the Ottawa Citizen and the National Post.
Get a grip! Our freedom and flawed democratic system is at risk here.
Democracy in progress or people hanging from ropes at your local soccer field. Choose your lifestyle carefully. = TG
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