Hurricane or Spitfire?
A letter sent to the Ottawa Citizen:
I'm confused. The story, "CF-18 jets, vintage aircraft to fly over war memorial" (City section, Nov. 10), shows a photo of an aircraft that is called a "Hurricane Spitfire" in the caption. Now there is a Hawker Hurricane fighter, and there is a Supermarine Spitfire fighter, but there is no such thing as a "Hurricane Spitfire".Update: RAF updating Spitfire, Hurricane, Lancaster fleets--perhaps in time to win the Battle of Afghanistan? (Via Spotlight on Military News and International Affairs.)
The text of the story says a Hurricane will fly over the Remembrance Day ceremony while the photo is actually that of a Spitfire. So which plane will in fact be flying November 11? I am pretty certain that it will be the Spitfire Mk XVI owned by Vintage Wings of Canada.
posted by Mark, Ottawa at 12:13 p.m.
12 Comments:
I love dave's mix of attacks on journalists and attacks on the left in general. It's cute.
In a 9 year old throwing a tantrum way.
Additionally, there seems to be contradictory information out there about the use of the word "gun":
CLICKY!
Hell, even those tree hugging peacenicks at firearmsmuseum.org use a definition that includes rifle.
etl, and your response I will answer in the reasonable, respectful manner that your reasonable, respectful, informative comment requires.
I agree. The reporters should know that. Period. The problem is that they are not writing for soldiers. They are writing for the great unwashed, who, seriously, can't tell the difference between a target pistol and something meant for laser tag.
The reporter who blew the identification of the air craft was a doofus as well. That was just stupid. The internets would have told him he was wrong. A quick trip to the local Indigo's military history section would have helped as well.
My bigger problem was with dave's umm... well counter-ignorance is the term I'll use.
etl, thank you for not engaging in the same.
dave, as opposed to the unhelpful, ignorant generalizations that you've made about the left?
Please...
Further, dave, the numerous studies on the media that have been done over the years show that, indeed, many journalists identify as left, and that most editors and pretty much all publishers/owners are right.
It's funny as well your point number four about the bumper sticker.
But what do I know, I was at an event today where there were speakers talking about peace and an end to war.
Cameron: Further to your 1:26 PM comment, perhaps that explains why so much of the supposedly neutral reporting in the Globe and Mail is actually very biased, whilst the editorials are fair and balanced!
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20061111.JUSTICE11/TPStory/National
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/Page/document/v4/sub/MarketingPage?user_URL=http://www.theglobeandmail.com%2Fservlet%2Fstory%2FLAC.20061111.EIRAQ11%2FTPStory%2FComment&ord=18084637&brand=theglobeandmail&redirect_reason=2&denial_reasons=none&force_login=false
(Full text of latter URL not officially online but just put the headline between quotemarks in Google and you'll get it all.)
Mark
Ottawa
Editorials at English language newspapers are not written by "Editors" in the sense that I meant.
Editorials at English language newspapers are written by an editorial board, or at least the positions in them are decided upon by the editorial board. Many of the people on this board are editors, but many are also journalists etc. The actual writing, depending on the newspaper, is handled by a tasked editorial writer or by someone the others trust to get it right
Sorry, should have finished that.
As such, English newspaper editorials reflect the position of The Newspaper.
French language editorials, by comparison, are signed, and reflect the writer.
I was at the National Remembrance Day ceremony...the aircraft passed rather quickly..but it appeared to be a piston driven aircraft with square wing-ends. If I remember my Spitfire correctly, its wingtips are rounded which would make the aircraft I saw a Hurricane. But I think that my recollection may be faulty. Sorry to interrupt the partisan bickering, by the way.
I was watching the ceremony at the Cenotaph in Ottawa on TV (my own local ceremony was inexplicably held on Wednesday the 8th!), and couldn't really see the aircraft that buzzed past, as the CBC cameraman didn't catch it. The howitzers firing during the chaplain's remarks was too bad - someone missed their timings.
But for me, the best moment of the ceremony was spotting my grandfather in the ranks marching past the GG & PM - he didn't know if he'd be in shape to make it down this year, but damned if he didn't show. He was the octogenarian with the straight back, head up, arms swinging. Oh wait, that was all of them for a moment there...
dr_funk, your interruption is welcome.
bb, I took my son to the cenotaph here in Montreal (where we heard the nice chaplain - it was the Rabbi - talking about peace). It's his second year, he was too little the first Nov he was alive.
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