Out of his depth in a parking lot puddle
Canadian military analyst John Thompson added: "I don't talk about social policy. (Layton) shouldn't talk about military history or strategy. I don't know much about social policy, and it's clear he doesn't know much about military history or strategy."
The CP story also, quite helpfully, points out that Jack! views factual accuracy as a secondary consideration to ideological purity (ht:Alan the Bloody Great Scot).
posted by Babbling Brooks at 1:43 p.m.
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In fact the present,independent, recognizably Afghan (Pathan) state was not created until 1747. Whoever controlled Persia/Iran controlled most of what is now Afstan much of the time ("Greater Khorasan").
And the area was successfully conquered by outsiders, esp. of the Turkic persuasion, many times--a few highlights:
"During the [Persian]Sassanid dynasty the province was governed by an Espahbod (Lieutenant General) called "Padgoosban" and four margraves, each commander of one of the four parts of the province.
Khorassan was divided into four parts during the Islamic Conquest of Iran and each section was named after the four large cities, such as Neyshabour, Merv, Herat, and Balkh.
In the year 651 CE, the army of Islamic Arabs invaded Khorasan. The territory remained in the hands of the Abbasid clan until 820 CE, followed by the rule of the Iranian Taherid clan in the year 896 CE and the Samanid dynasty in 900 CE.
Sultan Mohmud Qaznavi [Turkic]conquered Khorasan in 994 CE and in the year 1037 CE Toqrol, the first of the Seljuqian [Turkic] rulers conquered Neyshabour.
Mahmud Qaznavi retaliated against the invaders several times, and finally the Qaznavi Turks defeated Sultan Sanjar. But there was more to come, as in 1157 CE Khorasan was conquered by The Khwarazmids and because of simultaneous attacks by the Mongols, Khorasan was annexed to the territories of the Mongol Ilkhanate.
In the 14th century, a flag of independence was hoisted by the Sarbedaran movement in Sabzevar, and in 1468 CE, Khorasan came into the hands of Amir Teimoor Goorkani (Tamerlane)[Turkic] and the city of Herat was declared as capital.
In 1507 CE, Khorassan was occupied by Uzbek [Turkic]tribes. After the death of [Persian] Nadir Shah Afshar in 1747 CE, Khorasan was occupied by the Afghans."
Then there's this (lots more at this site):
"1504-1519
* Babur, founder of the Moghul [Turkic actually] dynasty takes control of Kabul"
Jack Layton and Canadian pundits who perpetuate the myth of the "unconquerable Afghan" could look it up easily. But they won't; they're both ignorant and lazy.
Mark
Ottawa
Facts should never get in the way when a Believer in Peace at Any Price or that nothing good ever comes of war and the military is a bad word steps up to a microphone.
Facts get in the way of Jacko's self induced sense of moral superiority, so he must make up lies to sustain his Believer status.
Taliban Jack is a Believer. What does he care if tens of thousands of Afghani women and children will die under the tender mercies of the Taliban. He will stay pure on his higher moral plane.
fred, "Taliban Jack" isn't helpful to your point.
It makes you seem like a "with us or against us" extremist and this detracts from the over all correctness of your position. A position (please don't make me repeat this again) that I largely share.
Oh, by the way please feel free to reply to this in some condescending fashion that will make it appear that you haven't read what I just wrote.
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