Monday, March 10, 2008

"Afghanistan: in advance of the vote"

Latest round-up from the Conference of Defence Associations. This February 25 post noted there by Bill Roggio is to the point:
Does Afghanistan have enough combat troops to secure the country? Can Afghanistan be fixed merely by adding troops to conduct humanitarian missions? The Washington Post's William M. Arkin says yes to both questions. In an article titled "Afghanistan: America Wrong, Europe Right," [Feb. 25] he argues the "hesitant Europeans" are right in withholding combat forces in Afghanistan, because more reconstruction is needed, not more troops. Arkin sums up his argument in a brief paragraph:

"Jump on the bandwagon if you like. I'm sure all three presidential candidates could happily articulate some version of Gates' lament on Afghanistan as diversion therapy. But the truth is that hesitant Europeans are right. More firepower isn't going to "win" the war in Afghanistan. It's not just because of the Pakistan back door, or because special operations and airpower -- not more boots on the ground -- are the keys to success. It's because what is really needed in the country is more non-military operations. In other words, hooray for the reluctant shooters."

Arkin's belief that combat troops are not needed in Afghanistan displays a woeful ignorance about the situation on the ground. Several of the arguments used by those opposed to the Iraq war to criticize the Bush administration and the military strategy there actually apply much better to Afghanistan. The primary criticism that applies here is force strength: there are too few troops on the ground to hold territory after it has been liberated from the Taliban, particularly in the south. Combat troops, and not provincial reconstruction teams, are needed to help hold ground to allow the PRTs do their work.

I embedded with the Canadian Army in Afghanistan in June of 2006 during the massive operation call Mountain Thrust, which was designed to clear Taliban forces from their strongholds in Kandahar, Uruzgan, and Helmand provinces. These operations were successful in killing over a thousand Taliban fighters and driving them from their redoubts, but only temporarily. There were not enough Afghan, Canadian, British, U.S., Dutch, and Danish forces to consolidate the successes. NATO and Afghan forces were forced to fight over the same territory during 2007.

If Arkin believes more reconstruction troops and less trigger pullers are needed, does he believe the NATO allies such as France, Germany, Italy, and Spain, who have failed to deploy to the hot regions in the east, southeast, and south, would happily deploy non-combat troops into these dangerous regions? These countries are reluctant to deploy more troops in the north, let alone take on a more risky mission in the south.

Arkin’s view contradicts everything learned over the past seven years of fighting small wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, and elsewhere. Security has to come first, then reconstruction.

One other note, Arkin wrongly lumps all of the NATO force under the "European" umbrella, thus making this a USA vs. Europe issue. It isn't. Arkin fails to note that several NATO allies have also called for an increase in combat forces. The deputy commander of the Canadian battle group called for a doubling of combat forces in Kandahar just last weekend. The Canadian and Dutch governments have been under enormous political pressure from their citizens as these countries have shouldered an inordinate amount of the fighting while larger allies shun combat for cushy peacekeeping gigs in the north.

Posted by Bill Roggio on February 25, 2008 12:12 PM

10 Comments:

Blogger Babbling Brooks said...

Boy, if it's just that the way we're doing it in the south is wrong, then the solution is easy. Just ask the reluctant allies, the ones who know better than those countries screwing it up in the volatile south, this question, on the record:

Under what circumstances would you deploy troops to Kandahar, Uruzgan, and Helmand provinces?

I suspect you'll have to wait a long time for the stuttering to stop before you get even the most obfuscating of answers.

4:37 p.m., March 10, 2008  
Blogger Dave in Pa. said...

Well said, bb!

I'd only add that this question ought to be asked publicly, in the upcoming international conference:

1. If there are any circumstances under which the reluctant allies are willing to provide combat troops for combat in the war zone.
2. Additionally, they should be asked (as you wrote) under what specific circumstances would you deploy troops to Kandahar, Uruzgan, and Helmand provinces?
Finally, I'd add to the question the request that:
3. these reluctant allies publically answer the question before the conference is adjourned.

If this has to be asked bluntly and even acrimoniously, so be it. Let's publically tell the French, Germans and Italians that the the rest of NATO wants to know if they are our NATO allies or not. (Personally, I like to know where I stand with my friends and I'd far rather write off an ex-friend than have a phony smarmily posing as a friend. We've let those three nations get away with BS for far too long.)

11:22 p.m., March 10, 2008  
Blogger Positroll said...

Let's publically tell the French, Germans and Italians that the the rest of NATO wants to know if they are our NATO allies or not.
Wrong question. U.S. were attacked within the Nato area. Nato-treaty required Nato members to help defeat the agressor. That happened, according to the U.S. ("mission accomplished" - no aircraft carrier involved, though). Result: U.S. sent most troops back home and prepared for invasion in Iraq. Europeans were politely asked to mop up and stablize the country, as Rumsfeld et al. were opposed to nation building. Germany was actually the first to go outside of Kabul and took responsibility for 40% of the population, at a time when the south wasn't much more dangerous than the north. They even sent special forces (200 KSK) to fight with the Americans in the east/south, without getting much of an appreciation from the U.S. who were still bitching about Germany not participating in Iraq. Canada freely decided to take over Kandahar. Now, they find out that they underestimated the task and insult the Germans/Italians/French because they don't want to renegotiate.
I wonder what the Canadians would have done, if the south had stayed more or less quiet and the Usbeks under Dostum in the north had started their own war against the "pashtun controlled" Kabul government (something that still can happen)? Anybody here thinks the Canadians would have volunteered and said "sure, let's rotate"... ???
Anyways, as I said before, Canada should push Germany to again send special forces to the south (maybe as trainers for ANA kandaks, too). Anything else won't fly.

This is not to say that I'm happy with the German mandate and the kind of restrictions it imposes on the Bundeswehr; however I think neither Canada nor the U.S. are in a position to complain too loudly:
The U.S., because the situation in Afghanistan today is the direct result of their stupid decision to forget about Afghanistan and go after Saddam. They messed it up by downsizing too early - why should others pay the price? (yes, Germany still owes it to the Afghan people to do more, but that is quite another question)
Canada: considering the decades of more or less free riding of Canada during the cold war it's definitly time for them to finally take on a role in line with their economic power. Yes, right now they are carrying more than an equal share of the burden - but the last decades they did a lot less.

9:08 a.m., March 11, 2008  
Blogger Babbling Brooks said...

Positroll, you make some good points. One that I'd take issue with off the top of my head, though, is the idea that any of the European nations, save perhaps Britain, should have anything to say about Canada's contribution to collective defence during the relatively lean Cold War years.

How many German troops were posted to bases in Canada to defend our soil? Because having flown into Lahr in the early 90's, I can tell you we put a lot of effort into defending theirs.

How many French have died defending Canadian soil? Because thousands of Canadians gave their lives to free the French from the Nazi yoke.

Canada certainly didn't focus nearly enough attention or resources on defence for decades - especially in my lifetime. But that doesn't mean the Europeans have a right to complain now.

10:00 a.m., March 11, 2008  
Blogger Positroll said...

Considering the force allocation of the Sovjets during the cold war, sending German troops to Canada wouldn't have made too much sense ... (at least you got some of our Leopards ... ;-) ) And while I certainly don't want to deride any Canadian soldiers, you are not going to convince me that the aim of the Canadians in Germany was the defense of Germany as such (decidedly not when Nato was founded). They were to defend Germany because the West needed to work togehter to defend against the Soviets. (I'll refrain from making snarky remarks regarding my French neighbours' participation in Nato - in a fighting war I am pretty sure they would have helped out). Well, maybe Canadians also wanted to defend the UK and the Queen for emotional resaons. But in the end, Americans and Canadians defended Europe (mostly) in their own interest. That is certainly no insult - just reality.

But that doesn't mean the Europeans have a right to complain now.
Complain? No. But it is enough to cry foul when some Canadian politicians complain that Canada has done so much in Afghanistan that it is time to leave and let others handle combat in Kandahar ... (pot, kettle, black)

P.S. Did Canada fight to free the French? Or to help the Empire/Commonwealth win the war, which included driving the Germans out of France? I don't know enough about Canadian history to answer that question, but I know that the common narrative in the U.S. about happily entering into WWII in order to free the world is a little off, considering U.S. public opinion before Pearl Harbour was opposed even to the lend-lease program ...

12:41 p.m., March 11, 2008  
Blogger Rivenshield said...

See, folks? This is what we put ourselves in front of a nuclear firing squad for. It was mere self-interest. Here speaks postmodern Europe.

Article 5? Ich bin ein Berliner? Tear down this wall? History? Sentiment? A sense of propriety and reciprocity? Our contractual obligations as nation-states? Why, nothing that can't be brushed aside with sly, snarky, sophisticated rejoinders. We should have maintained the no-fly zones in Iraq to prevent mass murder indefinitely and at our own expense, and we should maintain the good name of NATO in Afghanistan for the same reason. If anything has gone wrong it's all our fault; and if we're shorthanded it's our fault again.

>P.S. Did Canada fight to free the French?

Yes, you... unspeakable.... individual. They did. Among others. Democratic armies cannot be motivated to fight in the service of the freaking state. There needs to be some kind of idealism involved that doesn't involve shoving your boot in someone else's face.

But I'm speaking an alien tongue, aren't I?

3:34 p.m., March 11, 2008  
Blogger Babbling Brooks said...

Positroll, while we across the Atlantic did indeed defend Germany, France, and western Europe for our own selfish national interests as well as more charitable and idealistic motivations, the bottom line is that we did, in fact, put Canadian lives on the line to first liberate, and then defend European lives on European soil.

Perhaps the western Europeans would have done the same for us had the geographic realities been reversed. Perhaps I would then be tending French, Belgian, German, Italian war-dead graves in Canada. But the fact of the matter is that the geography is what it is, and we chose not to stay on our side of the Atlantic, but rather to serve and sometimes die on your side of it. The reality is that while we have never truly invested materially or emotionally enough in our own defence, we have certainly invested quite enough in the defence of free Europe over the past century or so.

But all that is beside the initial point of this post, which was to rebuke those NATO nations not operating in southern Afghanistan for having the temerity to suggest that they're justified in demurring because they don't like the way the Americans, Canadians, British, Dutch, Aussies, Romanians, Danes, Polish, and others are doing the job.

To those nations I would say this: sniping from the sidelines is distinctly unhelpful; feel free to roll up your sleeves and contribute to the solution instead.

4:03 p.m., March 11, 2008  
Blogger Mark, Ottawa said...

Babbling: Well put.

Mark
Ottawa

4:08 p.m., March 11, 2008  
Blogger Positroll said...

@rivenshield
Thanks for your perfect example of trolling on the internet.
To the record: My unit was scheduled to go to Somalia in 1993/1994, some guys from my squad were already down there to prepare our arrival. Then the Americans drew out because some of their soldiers got killed ("black hawk down"), which led the American public to believe that Somalia wasn't "in the American interest" any longer, as their media put it. This put an end to our deployment before it began, as we were supposed to support the Americans. We all know the results for Somalia ... So don't give me that shit about North Americans always acting to promote the common good of mankind ... (to Clintons credit, he at least tried. As did Roosevelt, with more success, thanks to Pearl Harbour). But maybe Canadians are better than that, I don't know, i've only been to the States ... (and members of the armed forces tend to be more idealistic in this regard as civilians anyway). Btw, did you happen to read about Obamas current position on the subject? Avoiding genocide is no proper task for the US army as it could bog them down in Iraq or Congo ...

Let's not forget the old saying: Nato was founded to keep the Americans in, the Germans down and the Russians out ... Yes, that changed over time, but even in 1990 Margaret Thatcher (and, to a lesser degree, Chirac) tried to prevent German reunification out of fear ... Idealism? Sometimes. But not too often - and that is true of all countries. I would be happy if there was more of it, though ... (if it is combined with a good sense of what is doable, that is)

@bb
"sniping from the sidelines is distinctly unhelpful; feel free to roll up your sleeves and contribute to the solution instead."
I won't disagree with that statement. On the other hand, Afghanistan must be treated as a whole. Actions in the south have effects in the north, and vice versa, so commenting on the others is a necessary part of the game. And lets not forget that this "sniping" is largely a reaction to insults hurled at these countries before (merited or not - just compare the reactions of the British and Dutch to the statements of Mr. Gates regarding their supposed lack of competence with respect to COIN operations ...)

7:05 p.m., March 11, 2008  
Blogger Babbling Brooks said...

Positroll, in case it has ever been unclear, my issue is not with the Bundeswehr, but with the political direction they have received and the limitations that have been placed upon them by their civilian leadership. I expect most of the German, French, and Italian soldiers serving elsewhere in the country would prefer to weigh in wherever they are most needed, including in the volatile south of Afghanistan. I have no problems with the individual soldiers, and I personally thank you for your own service in an allied military force.

I simply wish the entire NATO alliance could work as a unified entity in this instance, instead of like a bunch of bickering and self-centred twits. And after watching that Global TV special last night, I'd include both Canada and the U.S. in that statement as well.

It's long past time we, as a whole, actually did what was required to accomplish our task.

9:43 a.m., March 12, 2008  

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